Re: Grammatical Exerpts Distilled, Introduction
Rob Zook 
Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:15:43 -0500

At 01:54 PM 4/19/99 -0500, Saul Epstein wrote:
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>>The other thing that was sort of implied, but never described well
>>was the how the prepositions have a static or dynamic aspect. I called
>>the movement particle. What I really meant, although the word kept
>>escaping me was a vector.
>>
>>-'s   - Vector suffix
>>-liaq - Occupies Time
>>-riaq - Occupies Space
>>-liri - Occupies Space-Time
>>
>>The vector suffix was meant to turn a static location into a vector.
>>By default -'s locates the direction of movment. The prepositions
>>involved will help determine the starting point and/or destination. 
>>Alternatively, For example:
>
>
>I should point out that this distinction as made, uh, further down?
>The Locative role is restricted, naturally enough, to locations, so
>that it really shouldn't be used for vectors. 

I' missed that. I was looking for that in the last section on Specia
when it was in the post called Prepositions.

>For those we have an Original role (indicating motion away from the entity 
>so marked) and a Destinal role (indicating motion toward the entity so 
>marked). The markers are <cha'> and <ha>, respectively. So, for example...

I vaguely remember discussing this :/


>>inriaq spokjujehe le'matya
>>in  -riaq       spok -ju     -je      -he         le'matya
>>[it]-[in space] Spock-[above]-[behind]-[location] le'matya
>>"The le'matya is behind and above Spock (static location)"
>
>
>Could this be
>inriaq juje spokhe le'matja
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If we do indeed institute the syntactical rule, that when combining three
or more affixes, to take all but the final and make them a word infront of
the word to be so marked.

As far as the rest goes, corrections noted. It has been long enough since we 
discussed this last, I forgot all about the original/destinal idea. In that 
case, we should eliminate -thu and -qia altogether, as they serve no purpose 
as seperate locative forms, and a original/destinal form of them would seem 
rather redundent.

I also noted that -cha' "original case", and -cha "curved periodic spatial
contour" look very similar. I think we should change one of them.

Rob Z.
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