Re: Part 1 Re: Whatever happened to vulcan-linguistics + question
Saul Epstein 
Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:30:52 -0600

(Quotes Sorik of Vulcan: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 7:19 PM)

>From: "Saul Epstein" <sepstein*jccc,net>
>
>>We can label this a draft of a second edition of the lexicon, and
>>work on adding words generated by Rob's program, and borrowings from
>>OHV. It would remain a draft until such time as Marketa has a chance
>>to review and approve some version as the definitive second edition.
>>
>>What do others think?
>
>I think it very appropriate that Modern Vulcan take words from OHV,
>because that is our theoretical claim about the language; that it is
>the same language as OHV, much the same relationship between modern
>english and Old English.

To my knowledge, the precise relationship between OHV and what we may
wind up calling MSV has not yet been defined. I lean away from the
kind of relationship you describe above for two reasons. One, the
state that the two dialects had arrived at before they became aware of
each other seems to me too different for one to be a descendent of the
other, or even for them to be near relatives. Two, adopting either
assumption about them would seem to put undesirable limits on efforts
to further develop them -- unless it were decided to deliberately
modify both to make them more similar.

However, I see every reason for the more contemporary dialect to have
_borrowed_ (as opposed to having inherited) words from an older one,
especially one of such prestige as OHV continues to have.

>Another less related thought that is more related to government, but
>belongs on this list nevertheless, is whether we should have a formal
>way of making a proposal.  We do it casually, but no formalities have
>been established AFAIK.
>
>In Vulcan government there is supposed to be a proposal group and an
>expunging group.  While an expunging group would have little to no
>use here, I think a proposal group would.  Say, have the whole list
>be members of the group and each cast a vote on an item someone
>wishes to add to the master-proposal we submit to Marketa for
>approval.  Think of it like the legislative branch handing a bill to
>the president (spoken in US government terms)

Since this is very much what we do now, I see no reason not to
continue doing so.

>Give me your thoughts?

I will share them, willingly.

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