T'triahve = (IDIC)
Marketa J Zvelebil 
Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:31:16 +0000

Rob Zook wrote:
> 
> Steven Boozer wrote:
> >
> > Forwarded to the vulcan-linguistics mailing list:
> >
> > : From: mingbai <mingbai*ms3,hinet,net>
> > : Subject: Vulcan lang question
> > : Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:44:23 +0800
> > :
> > : In addition to general interest, I do have a specific question. I
> > : would like to know if there is a current rendering of the Vulcan
> > : IDIC proverb, which the best I know in English is "From infinite
> > : diversity, infinite combinations" (-- an interesting and precient
> > : appreciation for multi-culturism).
> >
> > I don't believe the development of Marketa Zvelebil's version of
> > Modern Vulcan being done by the Vulcan Academy Linguistics Department
> > has progressed to the point of being able to translate this proverb.
> 
> Actually, I believe that we (correct me if I'm wrong anyone) regard
> t'triahve as the Vulcan "translation". "Infinite diversity, in infinite
> combinations" simply comes closest in English to translating this
> complex one word concept in Vulcan.
> 
> 
> > I have no idea who coined the term *t'triahve* (Marketa?) or what the
> > literal meaning/derivation is.

I am not sure anymore. It is either from a novel or I made it up for one
of my stories. But in general I think it is much more elegant to have
one
word for a concept that is so important for the Vulcan society then a
lengthy
sentence. I find that often many expresions that are described by one
word in
Vulcan have to use a sentence in Eglish. There is probably much more
subtle meanings
the word t'triahve than we ever can discern - but that is the beauty of
any
language.
Marketa


> 
> Actually, I believe it comes from a ST Novel. I don't think it was
> _Spock's World_. First thing I'm gonna do when I unpack all my books
> is to read them damn novels from #1 to #80 and record all the Vulcan
> words out of them :)
> 
> Rob Z.

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