Re: vowel notation; yet another visit Saul Epstein Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:33:09 -0600 (Quotes Pat Whittaker: Monday, November 16, 1998 1:07 PM) >>This is what I propose: >> >>i-----bit >>I-----beat >>e-----bet >>E-----bait >>o-----bought >>O-----clone >>a-----clock >>A-----back (american accent) >>u-----but >>U-----boot >> >> -Sorik > >I would have put "beat" as E as it sounds like an "ee" to me. >I would have but "bait" as A as it sounds like an "ay" to me. >The "I" would sound like "eye" to me. This clearly demonstrates how unlikely it will be to arrive at a set of representations that will immediately suggest the same sounds to everyone. Each of us will find parts of any transcription that require conscious effort to interpret correctly until practice takes over. It's just something we have to live with. (BTW, ZC Vulcan currently has no vowel like the in AmEng "back.") -- from Saul Epstein locus*planetkc,com - www,planetkc,com/locus "Surakri' ow'phacur the's'hi the's'cha'; the's'pharka the's'hi surakecha'." -- K'dvarin Urswhl'at