Re: Vulcan names
Steven Boozer 
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:02:41 -0500

: >From: Steven Boozer <sboozer*midway,uchicago,edu>:
: >Vulcan male /S/ names mentioned in the TV episodes and movies:
: >
: > Skon=A0=A0=A0=A0 Sarek's father
: > Solkar=A0=A0 Sarek's grandfather
:=20
: Did you find the two latter names in the encyclopedia?=A0 If so, then w=
e=20
: know a lot about how Vulcans get their sir names.

Yes, they're from the Encyclopedia.  I just forgot to label them before m=
y
connection expired.  They both come from ST3 when T'Lar formally calls Sp=
ock's
father "Sarek, child of Skon, child of Solkar" at the fal-tor-pan on Moun=
t
Seleya.  Note that she did not say "son of", although she named only his =
male
progenitors (that they are indeed his father and grandfather is confirmed=
 by
the Encyclopedia).  We don't know how a woman would be addressed -- as "c=
hild
of" her father and grandfather, "child of" her mother and grandmother, or=
 a
mixture of the two? =20

For that matter, is this even the normal formal naming pattern, or a form=
ula
connected specifically with the fal-tor-pan which, as T'Lar reminded ever=
yone,
hadn't been attempted "since ages past"?

: ... Vorick, Tuvok, the ensign from TNG "Lower Decks" (Torek?).=20
:=20
: I'd like to point out, in case this hasn't been mentioned, that Torik=20
: and Vorik are the same actor.=A0 Torik has much shorter hair, and is at=
=20
: least a year or two younger (at least the actor is).

Obviously, since the episode was filmed a year or two prior to Voyager.=20
However, in the Trek "universe" they're different characters with differe=
nt
names (Vorick and Taurik) -- which is what we're discussing here.  The fa=
ct
that they're portrayed by the same actor (what's his name?) is irrelevant=
 for
our purposes. =20

It is interesting that TPTB chose not to give either one a traditional /S=
/
name.  Maybe /S/ names for males are out of fashion in the 24th century.=20
They're not nearly as common as they were some 80 years before in the TOS=
 era,
the legendary time of "cowboy diplomacy".
=20
: Hmmm.=A0 Has anyone been to my Vulcan names page yet?=A0 I think it all=
ows=20
: for most if not all of the names mentioned above.

Yes, I just looked at it.  If it's the one at=20

 http://www,geocities,com/Athens/Olympus/9087/vulnames,html

I only saw four names on your page (Sarek, Tuvok, T'Pel and Surak) aside
from a
partial alphabet.  Is there another section I missed? =20

Have you tried writing all of these canonical names (i,e. the TV episodes=
 and
movies) using your alphabet?  Don't forget the unusual ones like Xon, Sak=
onna,
Selar, Saavik and even Valeris -- which, although Klingon in origin, shou=
ld be
possible to write after a fashion (with a Vulcan "accent" as it were).  D=
on't
forget about the geographical names as well to test your system.  If I ha=
ve
time, I'll try to come up with a canonical list of those too.

: -Sorik


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