Re: Gender in Pronouns Steven Boozer Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:09:26 -0500 Martina Luise Pachali: : If for some reason you need to be : offensive, you just use the non-sentient pronons for a person... Saul Epstein: : Ooh, that does sound effective. Especially for so intellectual a : people as Vulcans... I agree, not that a Vulcan would ever dream of being intentionally offensive! That would be an obvious (not to mention public) emotional reaction. Actually, this is one of the many ways you can insult someone in Klingon. The nominal possessive suffixes -wIj "my", -maj "our", -lIj "your (sg.)" and -raj "your (pl.)" are only used for objects, animals, abstractions, etc. The corresponding forms for "beings capable of using language" (i,e. people and other sentient life forms) are -wI', -ma', -lI' and -ra'. (There is no such non-sentient/sentient split in the third person, however, and the same suffixes -- -Daj "his/her/its" and -chaj "their" -- are used for both.) This same distinction is made with the plural suffixes: -mey for things, -pu' for people plus -Du' for body parts. Using the wrong one inadvertantly may prove hazardous to one's health. Marc Okrand explains: "It is grammatically correct to use the regular possessive suffixes with nouns referring to beings capable of speech (as in {puqlIj} 'your child'), but such constructions are considered derogatory; {joHwIj} for 'my lord' borders on taboo". (The Klingon Dictionary, p,25) "Addressing 'my Lord' or 'my Lady' as {joHwIj} rather than {joHwI'} is insulting indeed, since it implies that 'my Lord' or 'my Lady' is a lower order of being. Similarly, a group of heads of households would probably not appreciate being referred to as {joHDu'}, since that would be the appropriate way to say 'Lords' or 'Ladies' only if they were body parts. The only thing worse would be combining mispronuncation with grammatical blundering, such as by saying {joQDu'wIj} (my ribs) ... when {joHpu'wI'} (my Lords, my Ladies) is intended. Mistakes of this kind are simply not tolerated and there are no recorded instances of anyone living long enough to repeat the offense." (Klingon For the Galactic Traveller, p,190) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Steven Boozer The University of Chicago Library s-boozer*uchicago,edu