RE: Gender in pronouns MDriest Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:22:24 -0400 I think the first possibility would work better and I agree with T'Pel. I= t is more precise. The chance that any Vulcan would stoop to verbal abuse is quite small, my= Lady, but the language is probably capable of it. There is another possibility, T'Pel already told us, we could simply not sort for gender. We could make a distinction on grounds of something else. I thought is wa= s one of our goals to create an alien language, so why not create something no Terran language has? In some way, I find sorting on male/female/neuter a tiny bit mundane. (No= offense, my ongoing admiration for the work that is being done here.) Another idea: - different stages of abstractness. This may need some work. Does everyone remember Lyras' speech about abstract words? We could have words in categories: concept (totally abstract), derived or= semi-objective, and object. C'Thia would be conceptual. There is nothing you can point at and say tha= t it is 'C'Thia'. It has no practical relation with the physical world. The Vulcan Academy would IMO be semi-objective meaning there is a real se= t of buildings but when you = say "The Vulcan Academy" you still draw on a variety of objects for defining what the Vulcan Academy is. A derived word could be a word like "seskahlna" (made up), meaning a 'priests' staff'. There is an actual stick or staff that would be objective but that's not all there is to it.= 'Plant' or 'house' would be objective as you can point to a clear thing. When speaking of plants or houses in a more general way, you could go back to using the semi-objective pronoun, indicating you don't refer to a particular plant or house. This distinctions make sense in a language and culture where it is of gre= at importance to make clear how your logical thinking precisely developed. In Terran languages it is often har= d to put into sounds precisely and accurately what exactly went on in your mind. This is clearly not desirable. Greetings, Sorahl