Re: Vulcan names
Sorik of Vulcan 
Thu, 08 Oct 1998 15:19:05 PDT

>From: "Saul Epstein" <locus*planetkc,com>
>Among the things worth keeping in mind is how little we know about
>the nature of Vulcan names. Do they mean anything? It seems likely
>they did once. How long ago?

Livia Cases uses the name T'Kae, which must have something to do with 
the word kae, Vulcan for mind.
>
>Do Vulcans create new names sometimes? Often? Always? What governs a
>new name's form? Do they have anything to do with time of birth?
>Accompanying signs?

Not sure what you mean by signs here.  If it is astrology I'd say "Never 
that".  Spock clearly states in "Mind Meld" by John Vornholt that he 
does not believe in supersticion(sp?), astrology, numerology and things 
of this nature.  A Rigellian then asks, "THen what do you believe in?", 
and he answers, "Logic".  Of course Spock can be just speaking for 
himself, and not all of Vulcan, but I doubt it since any such belief is 
sooooo illogical.

>Did large numbers of people really take new names during the
>Awakening? Did they make these names up? To have certain sounds, or
>to have certain meanings? Or did they take existing names, for either
>reason? If some old names stopped being used after the Awakening, was
>it because of what they meant? Or because of some other association?

Not cannon, and not that I remember exactly, but doesn't your story of 
K'dvarin have something like this? I may be wrong.

>
>How many parts are there to a Vulcan's full name? Are parts
>transmitted from one generation to the next? Altered at bond-mating?
>Other milestones? How?
>
>To what extent are titles incorporated incorporated into full names?

A teacher would have t'khar in it somewhere just like a certain japanese 
sensei (teacher) would be called "Suta-ku sensei".  There is also T'Sai, 
which is used..,well I'm not sure that's defined either.
>
>If sexism was a problem before the Awakening, reformers might well
>have sought to end any customs that supported it. If it wasn't a
>problem, it might never have occured to them to do any such thing.
>This is something else we don't know about Vulcan, but it's rather
>far from a linguistic focus.

It is kind of off topic for this list.  I'll repost that last paragraph 
or two about possible sexism to the main list.
>
>Of some interest in this regard also is the long-term trend in the
>Anglo-American naming tradition of certain names once considered
>masculine becoming, ah, bisexual or even feminine -- sometimes due to
>perceived feminine morphology (Tracy, Leslie, Darcy) but not always
>(Carol). Also the contemporary fashion of giving girls boys' names.
>Tyler comes to mind.

Yes, my best friend is a male named Courtney, which, (for those of you 
not familiar with this name) is traditionally female.

Sorik
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