Re: Vulcan names
Sorik of Vulcan 
Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:36:44 PDT

>From: "Saul Epstein" <locus*planetkc,com>
>To: vulcan-linguistics*shikahr,com,inter,net
>Subject: Re: Vulcan names
>Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:13:22 -0500
>Reply-To: vulcan-linguistics*shikahr,com,inter,net
>
>From: Sorik of Vulcan <surak_1*hotmail,com>
>Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 1:43 PM
>
>
>>One question I have for the list is whether there should be a
>>distinction between <ok> and <ock>.  The sound is the same (again, to
>my
>>American-English speaking analasis), so it would seem kind of
>pointless
>>to have two when there could easily be one. Or perhaps Spock should
>be
>>written <S>+<p>+<o+kh>?
>
>
>Is there a problem with <s>+<p>+<o+k>, and <t>+<u+v>+<o+k>? You
>already have an isolated <p> in T'pel.

The reason I suggested Spock's "ock" be written differently than Tuvok's 
is because it is in English translations.  So, if we assume that a 
Vulcan translator worked with an English-speaking human to come up with 
this peculiarity, then we can assume it has a reason.  In the ST TMP 
utterances at Gol we hear the Preistess say Spock much differently than 
say, Kirk would.  She seems to aspirate the k sound quite a lot, so I 
think it would be written Spokh in Vulcan.

We could use completely different characters in naming than normal 
sentences, but I don't really think we should.  The male names can 
usually be written with a starter, middle sound, and an ender.  Female 
names on the other hand usually cannot.  T'Pel, T'Pau, T'Lar are all 
different.  I realized that I couldn't write T'Pel will the characters I 
already created so I borrowed Rob's <p>.  That's why it is isolated. 


T'Lar would be written:

<T'>+<*L>+<ar>+<**generic femanine>

T'Pau:

<T'>+<*P>+<*a*u>+<**generic femanine>

*Rob's aleady existant characters.
**The generic femanine does not make a sound.

>
>>I think there still needs to be another symbol for a masculine <T>
>since
>>Tuvok is hardly femamine.
>
>If you just assign the indication of gender to the long stroke running
>on the left or the right, it would allow for much greater flexibility
>in this regard...

Alright.  That sounds good.  We can just say that the <S> starter is 
"usually masculine", and the <T> is "usually femanine" to eliminate the 
need for another set of starters.  As I say on the page itself, we will 
need more starters for Vorik and Veleris. K'dvarin is also going to need 
one. I think you should come up with that one Saul.

I'd also like to make note of the fact that the names can also be 
written horizontally.  I'm going to work on some pics to illustrate that 
tonight.

The address for the page:
http://www,geocities,com/Athens/Olympus/9087/vulnames,html

Just curious, but did the popup java ad appear and stay when you loaded 
the page, or did it swiftly disapear?

LLaP

Sorik


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