- and - (was Re: Locating a Sentence's Action in Time) Saul Epstein Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:06:34 -0500 Quotes from: Sorik of Vulcan Date: Sunday, October 04, 1998 7:32 PM >I like Rob's illustration better. The whole aspect of "inclusive" >meaning including the tense-moment, and "exclusinve" not including the >tense-moment is appealing to me. It does have a certain symmetry, and if available people will find uses for it. Since I'm beginning to view Indeterminate Concurrence as the "default" I may recommend -n~e- to represent, ah, Negative Concurrence. >>I think with vdi-, as I intended it, would mean >>"invited one." would still be "the/an invitation" or "to >>invite" or "inviting" (as an adjective). > >I'm confused as to what vdi- means, and when it should be used. It's supposed to represent, roughly, the idea "one who is the direct object of such-and-such an action." If is "invitation/to invite," then would be "one who invites" and "one who is invited." Some other examples: prala v'prala vdiprala speech/to speak speaker spoken ran vran vdiran act of killing/to kill killer slain far v'far vdifar bond/to bond one who/that which bonds one who/that which is bonded kam'nat v'kam'nat vdikam'nat treason/to betray traitor betrayed kroi v'kroi vdikroi cessation/to cease stopper stopped >And is >k'wawje suposed to be "invitation"? If so, then shouldn't k'wawja be >singular "one invitation" and k'wawje be "more than five invitations"? It hasn't been determined, or even considered, whether the "more than five" suffix bars the occurance of roots ending in . "More than ten invitations" could be , although that would be confused with invitation as audience to which a statement is addressed. It would be simplest if we barred final in roots... >Finally, Am I the only one who has a REALLY hard time saying "ticuxoy"? >I find it rather anoying personally. Without intending offense to one who would be Vulcan, I must point out that it's supposed to be hard to say. ;-) -- from Saul Epstein locus*planetkc,com - www,planetkc,com/locus "Surakri' ow'phacur the's'hi the's'cha'; the's'pharka the's'hi surakecha'." -- K'dvarin Urswhl'at