Re: Summary of "Syntactic Relationships" Expansion
Rob Zook 
Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:22:45 -0500

At 07:54 PM 9/1/98 -0500, Saul Epstein wrote:
>From: Rob Zook <rzook*informix,com>
>Date: Tuesday, September 1, 1998 11:03 AM
> 
>> Saul Epstein wrote:
>> 
>> > <spokAT t'hyla uri'>
>> > "That one (is) a friend OF Spock."
>> 
>> Ummm..,that one's pretty metaphorical Saul, I don't think it
>translates
>> very well.
>
>Do you mean "that one" is pretty metaphorical, or that the whole
>sentence is? If the first, I'm taking my cue from the stated use of
>number words as quantifying suffixes, as in

Well, the "that one" makes the whole sentance a use of a certain
figure of speech, and the particular "that" you choose to use, I 
think takes that into account already.


>t'hylara - 2 friends           t'hyle (more than 5 friends)
>          (analogicaly trial,
>           quatral, quintal)
>
>I don't mean it as a literal translation of "that one;" actually I
>originally was constructing a sentance just to mean, "He is Spock's
>friend." "That one" is therefore an overly literal translation of one
>member of a potential set of gender-neutral pronouns -- a member
>meaning s/he, of a set including a member meaning "gender-neutral I"
>(or "this one.")

Yeah, I just mean that there should be a better way of translating
that.

 
>> Other than that, have you been able to locate any information on
>> addition types of "syntactic relationships", other than the
>standard
>> English/Latin ones?
>> You said that Sanscrit had some, perhaps you could post some
>examples
>> of one's which Sanscrit has, but Latin does not?
>
>Oh, yeah, I was going to look into that, wasn't I? Actually the set I
>posted in this summary matches Sanskrit fairly closely, with the
>addition of -sko. (Of course, my suggested "new" names don't
>match...) And I appear to have been mistaken in my impression that
>Latin and Sanskrit shared most of the same ones, as Latin seems to be
>missing a few, according to the Latin-English dictionary which has
>been my sole source of information on the subject to date.
>
>Time for some research...

Maybe an initial post of all the latins one would be a good start for
an initial comparison?


Rob Z.