FW: A Formal Proposal (LONG) Whittaker, Pat Fri, 10 Jul 98 09:07:00 M In English, "ch" is like in the word "chair". The "ch" in Bach is more of a sound made in the back of the throat (please excuse my lack of technical terms here) where the "ch" in chair is more at the front of the mouth. Selek ---------- From: owner-vulcan-linguistics To: vulcan-linguistics Subject: Re: A Formal Proposal (LONG) Date: Friday, 10 July, 1998 8:31AM Quotes from: Marketa J Zvelebil Date: Friday, July 10, 1998 2:41 AM > We also need a "Ch" sounds as in the hebrew word Hadash. > I am afraid there is no english equvalent. Or dutch graach. Uh-oh. Is that not roughly the same as the at the end of German ? If so, that was originally represented as , which Ryan suggests be altered to . I only ask because I don't know Dutch, and the "het" in varies between the Yiddish- and Arabic-flavored dialects of Hebrew... -- from Saul Epstein locus*planetkc,com - www,planetkc,com/locus "Surakri' ow'phacur the's'hi the's'cha'; the's'pharka the's'hi surakecha'." -- K'dvarin Ursw~l'at