Let's Talk: Phonetics Saul Epstein Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:30:19 -0500 OK, folks, bear with me. I'm not sure where I'm going with this... Since this list first opened, I've made my contributions using a lot of linguistic and grammatical terminology, because it's there, I feel familiar with it, it's capable of great precision, blah, blah, blah... Early on, I remember warning everyone that I would tend to do this, and suggested that if I ever said anything that didn't make sense to someone, but which that one wished to understand, then that one should slap me (electronically, of course) until I said something clearer on the subject. That happened a couple of times, but mostly people have let me babble on, limited only by my occasional feeling that I was muttering into a deep hole. So, this is what I'm beginning to consider: if technical discussion excludes too many of us, we need to find less technical ways to discuss the things that concern ALL of us. Or at least using more familiar terms. This isn't just a matter of how many people can participate in the formulation of descriptions of Vulcan, but of how many people can UNDERSTAND those descriptions once formed. Phonetics, then. Here's a set of words describing the different categories of consonants presented in the ZC, and the examples of each. I've used the original transcriptions, because I think I want this to be the first installment of an explanation of how I arrived at the changes I suggested, so that others can better evaluate which -- if any -- of those changes to adopt. (I've also left out a few sounds that cross or combine categories, just to clarify what the labels mean.) Manners stop friction flow nose {lip p b f v w~ w m {(tongue)tip t d s z l n (r and rh go in here) Places {(tongue)blade sh zh j n~ {(tongue)base k g x ng {(tongue)root q {throat ' h (The failure of the "simple" consonants to make use of and is a big part of the changes I ended up suggesting...) Lip consonants are made either with both lips, or with the lower lip and the upper-front teeth. Tip, Blade, and Root consonants are all made with the named part of the tongue and a nearby part of the roof of the mouth. Throat consonants are made with some part or parts of the throat. Stop consonants completely stop the passage of air through the mouth and then release it. Friction consonants restrict the passage of air through the mouth enough that the passage causes audible friction. Flow consonants also restrict the passage of air, but not enough to cause audible friction. Nose consonants completely stop the passage of air through the mouth, and allow it to pass through the nose instead. What distinguishes /p/ from /t/, then, is the _place_ where the passage of air is influenced; what distinguishes /p/ from /f/ is the _manner_ in which the passage of air is influenced. If this seems adequately clear, I'd like to use these terms as part of an explanation of the changes I proposed in the transcription. I'd like to use them from now on, in fact, whenever questions about consonants come up. -- from Saul Epstein locus*planetkc,com - www,planetkc,com/locus "Surakri' ow'pacur the's'hi the's'cha'; the's'parka the's'hi surakecha'." -- K'dvarin Ursw~l'at