another explination attempt
Sorik of Vulcan 
Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:09:46 PST

Hello everyone,
Isn't the Zvelebil notation that which is on the lexicon page of 
Marketa's?  If so, then this is how I would change it, that is, if I 
were her.
Vowels:

i  -as in eng. "pea", or "sea"
u  -   "       "boot"
e  -   "       "gray/grey"
o  -   "       "boat"
^  the same as in the ZC
a  - as in german Bach or French Patte.  "Say ahhh"  (see bottom of 
message for further thoughts on the "a" sound.

ih -as in eng. "pit" or "pin"
uh -   "       "but", not "put"
hu -   "       "put" and "could"
eh -   "       "bet", or "head"

**If the vowel sound is shorter in "pit" than in "speak", that is not 
what I was referring to when suggesting we use <ih> to show that a "pit" 
sound is made.  The long "eee" sound is made with a different tounge 
position that an "ih" sound.  I hav noticed that the tounge is almost 
touching the mid-section of the roof of the mouth when saying the short 
<i>, but when saying the long <i>, the tounge is touching a lot more, 
and in a portion of the mouth closer to the fromt teeth.  That was what 
I was referring to.
**Rob's concern about Marketa's pronunciation of "d'vel'nahr" is 
understandable, but nowhere did I say that <a> would be turned into "a" 
as in "cat".

I believe this should be one of the only exceptions in the Vulcan 
language.  It would be implied that this sound is made when a consonant 
directly follows a vowel.  When <e> is followed by <h> <k> and other 
consonants, (not saying exactly wich ones) it would make a sound like 
"eh".
aw -as in eng. "fault"

Consonants:
ts -as in "tse tse fly" or "tsunami"
ks or x - as in "ax" or "fox"
y  -as in eng. "yolk"
(**as opposed to using <j>)

*I realize that the consonants I propose are seen in Saul's and other 
notations, but I was just looking at the Zvelebils' notation when 
writing this.

The following is of my own creation, tell me what you think.

I think there should be different Vulcan characters in Vulcan that sound 
like...
er -as in eng. "air"
ur -as in eng. "bird" or "fur"
ir -as in eng. "ear"
ar -   "       "bar" or "car"


The following could be used for sentient names.
ek - as in Vul. "Sarek"
ok -     "      "Tuvok"
ik -     "      "Vorik" and "Sorik"
el -     "      "T'Pel"
ella -   "      "T'Pella" this one sounds far too Spanish, so maybe this 
one should not be.
The preceding would indicate you are saying someone's name as opposed to 
just saying a word.  This is something japanese lacks.

The following states that a sentient name is either feminine or 
masculine.
S  -     "      Surakian masculine  (Surak)
T' -     "      feminine  (T'Pau)

With these additions, the word "Surak", for instance, would be 
represented by three Vulcan characters, <S>, <ur>, and <ak>.


Sorik

***Rob.  I already have many symbols that can be used for any or all of 
the additions I propose (th'breidmuhah).  You see, before I even know of 
these mailing lists, and studied the lexicon, I came up with many 
symbols/characters that I wished to use in Vulcan writing, but I sort of 
like what you've done.  So I have all these symbols left over that could 
be useful.  I'll do what I can to get them postd somewhere, and let you 
know.

Mene sakkhet ur-seveh.

Sorik

"If everyone is unique, then that also makes everyone the same."

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