a more "romajish" notation Sorik of Vulcan Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:49:08 PST Hello everyone, Isn't the Zvelebil notation that which is on the lexicon page of Marketa's? If so, then this is how I would change it, that is, if I were her. Vowels: i -as in eng. "pea", or "sea" u - " "boot" e - " "gray/grey" o - " "boat" ^ the same as in the ZC a - as in german Bach or French Patte. "Say ahhh" (see bottom of message for further thoughts on the "a" sound. ih -as in eng. "pit" or "pin" uh - " "but", not "put" hu - " "put" and "could" eh - " "bet", or "head" I believe this should be one of the only exceptions in the Vulcan language. It would be implied that this sound is made when a consonant directly follows a vowel. When is followed by and other consonants, (not saying exactly wich ones) it would make a sound like "eh". aw -as in eng. "fault" Consonants: ts -as in "tse tse fly" or "tsunami" ks or x - as in "ax" or "fox" y -as in eng. "yolk" The following is of my own creation, tell me what you think. I think there should be different characters in Vulcan that sound like... er -as in eng. "air" ur -as in eng. "bird" or "fur" ir -as in eng. "ear" ar - " "bar" or "car" The following could be used for sentient names. ek - as in Vul. "Sarek" ok - " "Tuvok" ik - " "Vorik" and "Sorik" el - " "T'Pel" ella - " "T'Pella" this one sounds far too Spanish, so maybe this one should not be. These would indicate you are saying someone's name as opposed to just saying a word. This is something japanese lacks. S - " Surakian masculine T' - " feminine These would indicate that you are talking about something masculine or feminine. With these additions, the word "Surak", for instance, would only have three characters, , , and . I already have symbols that can be used for these. If Rob likes, I can post them on a page of mine, he can see them, and add them to what he has already done. If that is acceptable. **I think the "a" sound should just be left alone. The debate is far too extranious. The difference in cultural accent is going to cause people to pronounce certain things differently no matter what examples we give. For example, I am not going to say things exactly the same as list members in Britain, and certainly not like those in Hungary and Germany. The pronunciations already given are good enough for me. Please review this and get back to me. Sorik "If everyone is unique, then that also makes everyone the same." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www,hotmail,com